DO Ideas 2

More IPv4 addresses

More than one ip for a VM would be great. A small subnet maybe ..

  • jack
  • Sep 11 2018
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  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    +1

  • Rogerio commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Please provide us additional IP v4.

  • Varun Sridharan (TechNoFreaky) commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    +1

  • Vladimir commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    +

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    +1

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    +2

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    +1

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    +1

  • Einar commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    +1

  • JayD commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    As for SSL/TLS (HTTPS): With TLSv1 support for server name indication (short: SNI) was introduced. With it the server name is exchanged prior to the actual tls handshake allowing to secure multiple websites using a single ip address. This happened several years ago and most web server including HTTPD and NGINX have seemless support for TLS (all ssl versions are now deprecated anyway). So HTTPS is no longer a reason to require multiple ip addresses.

  • Thomas Deinhamer commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    That's needed so badly.

  • mehul patel commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    This is bad for good company..

  • Alexander commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    I'd love to have this option too. Especially now when google needs all pages with personal info to be under ssl.

  • Nich commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    I really do like DigitalOcean, but I may have to move to another provider soon (AWS), as the absence of this feature is really affecting my ability to get things done.

  • Sruli Shaffren commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    This would be very valuable. As things stand I'll have to go to another provider for certain projects, and I dislike doing so.

    If I can buy the least expensive droplet for $5 per month and it comes with an IP, why not allow me to buy the IP without the droplet for the same $5 per month? Sure, the cost is high but would be worth it for some projects.

  • Matthew Baya commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Didn't realize this wasn't an option. I'm going to have to move my server to another host without this :(

  • Erdal Cicek commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    All internet marketers, and SEO service need additional ip v4.

  • MaXwell Falstein commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    IPv6/64 is being considered by DO, so with that one would hope for more IPv4 addresses, but there are not enough IPv4 addresses to do this.

    Unfortunately, it is as simple as that. DO could buy great big chunks of IPv4 addresses, at great cost, from Governments (such as the UK), who have vast ranges of the IPv4 spectrum sitting doing nothing. They have been selling off big ranges of them recently.

    IPv6 cannot be mass adopted quick enough.

  • SN H commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Support for a 2nd or 3rd (multiple) IP addresses IMPORTANT

    Our droplet should be allowed more than 1 IP

  • Renato Beltrán commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Please provide us additional IP v4.

  • Indrakumar S commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Please provide us additional ips

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Pls pls pls

  • Chris commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Needed for SSL and hosting multiple sites without same IP on one droplet, please consider!

  • kumar commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    yes

  • Marcelo Altmann commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    +1 for this. This is needed for SSL certs!

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    +1 Let's do it!

  • Isaac commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    we need it for seo and it doesn't make sense to build a special server for each website

  • zak commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    We need IPs,

  • Whawenst Duvet commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    This was suggested about 2 years ago, is anyone from DO paying attention to suggestions? They need to address this.

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Yes would be a great idea

  • Martin commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Would like a possiblity to add extra IPv4's to a droplet.

  • Jonathan commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Most of the competitors to D.O. I have looked at have option to pay for additional IPs. For as little as a couple of dollars a month. It's essential for anyone using SSL, which is increasingly considered a must for numerous reasons. This is the one thing that is preventing me from using D.O. for my VPS hosting. I hardly want to have to buy an additional droplet for each web site on which I require SSL.

  • Peter Sanchez commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    +1 This is the biggest hurdle for moving all my VPS's to DO

  • Christopher Scott Grigg commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    +3

    We desperately need more than 1 IP per droplet. Even if the IP costs $5/month, we understand the cost. We just need more.

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    all internet marketers, SEOs need this!

  • Simon Bannister commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Google penalise websites for using shared IP addresses so when running a multisite apache setup being able to assign different IP addresses to each site would be beneficial.

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Stop begging for free IPv4 addresses, they simply can't.
    The IPv4 space is quite frankly already at its brink of complete exhaustion.
    For DigitalOcean to reserve extra addresses just because you bunch of idiots want more IP's is dumb.

    If you need more IP's go use IPv6, you get a fuck ton of them.

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    I could use IPv6 addresses for the individual droplets, so I'll trade you 2 IPv4 addresses for 2 IPv6 addresses and 1 IPv4 address that I can float between 2 droplets.

  • Gernot Premper commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    I would like the possbility to have more IP's for the same droplet. For instance in my case I want to install two SSL certificates on the same droplet.

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    why you are not giving additional ip for the droplet without it we can run our business.

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    This would be awesome for keepalived

  • Michael commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    +1 This is a MUST.

  • Fred commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Without VRRP possibilities on Digitalocean, it won't be able to suffice for almost all production setups that require high availability. (which from my point is a must for every production setup)

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Offering a second ip for free would make DigitalOcean the best VPS provider in the world.

    A payed option for third, fourth and so on should also be provided for those customers that requires that (2$ / month seems like a fair price).

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    +1 Let's do it!

  • João Beno Schreiner Junior commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    +1! Go more ip!

  • Matt Frost commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    +1

  • alamina commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    +
    i need more ip too on droplet

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    In my case $5 for another IP per month is still fair price.

  • hristoff commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    +1

    This is the only reason why I have not moved all in DigitalOcean

  • Ika commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Really guys, see how many people request this.. what is the technological limitation here?

  • James Ball commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Agreed, I would love to have an additional IP for Keepalived to provide redundancy for a service that I run.

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Thanks for Vultr, sorry Digital Ocean.

  • Marius Marais commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Not seeing the need for additional IPs to use with SSL certificates as there are other options, including SNI.

    However, a virtual IP shared by two instances and managed via Keepalived would be invaluable.

    (Excluding the SSL use-case could mean less actual IPs are needed to provide this option.)

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    i need to setup some ssl certificates....i will move to ovh

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    +1

  • Peter Butler commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    +1 for me

  • Thomas Meadows commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Revenue generating idea, this should be top priority digital ocean.

  • dian prasetya commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    +1

  • Michael commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Crazy this is still not happening. Any word on if it's even being considered?

  • Joe commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    By the way "Gathering feedback" for 4 months, over 1,700 votes and over 130 comments. Isn't that enough for Any company to do something about it?

  • Joe commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Such a turn off. There is no good reason for a prominent hosting not to give the option to lease additional IPs.
    The only reason I can think of is that DO thinks that they will sell more droplets because of this.
    As far as I am concerned, I'm going to go with Vultr just because of this...

  • Yan commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    +1

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    I just assumed I could get an extra one after I signed up. Woops. I guess DO only has a limited block.

  • Greg commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Totally agreed. This is actually the only reason why I am moving my business to Vultr.
    I wanted Digital Ocean but no additional IPs is such a turn off.
    All serious providers sell at least a couple of additional IPs. Sometimes they ask for proof that you actually need more IPs but at least they give us the option.

  • Richie commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    To be taken seriously as a legit VPS provider, additional IP's are a must. I love this service already. I would marry it if I could get additional IP's.

  • Lyle commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    You should at least allow multiple IPv4 addresses for SSL certificates (everyone else does!). With large numbers of people still on XP we don't have a lot of choice. and this has prevented us from moving our instances to you

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Please, move forward with this

  • Sergey Shepelev commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    I am willing to pay 1$ per month per IP. Need total of 4 IPv4 on single droplet for last project.

  • lifeofguenter commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Yes. Definitely. Please.

  • Refik commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    +1

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Yes, It is necessary

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Unable to switch over our main server without this feature as we use three IP's for the various services.

  • Sonuyos commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    YES PLEASE

  • mc0e commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    If I'd realised ealrier that this was missing I'd probably not have gone with digital ocean.

  • Guest commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    When?!!

  • Des Drury commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    A must have!

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    +1

  • Guest commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Absolutely necessary for professionals.

  • Adersh commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Would be great..

  • Boštjan Pišler commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Yea, must have. Multi domain + SSL is currently kind of impossible.

  • manjunath commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    i need additional ips.

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    +1

  • Pakistan Recruiter Board commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Would be great..

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    would be great!

  • splawik21 commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    darkcoin please as a payment option, I`d definitly use it.

  • michal liu commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    please webRTC STUN server needs at least two public IPs

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    please please

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Should have been added a long time ago.

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    It is required please add option to add additional IP..

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    very critical and can't continue without additional ip addresses, wish i knew about this earlier

  • Erçin Dedeoğlu commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    really required...

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    +1

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Please add this, Very important for webhosting..

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    this is the one thing stopping me moving my hosting here :( multiple ip4 much needed!

  • Mustafa Bahadır Pakalın commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    We need a additional ip, it'll be great if digitalocean do this :)

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Same here. Only one IP per droplet is going to stop me moving most of my clients over here, more so since Google announced SSL will become a ranking factor.

  • Andrés González commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    It's required

  • Kris Osterhout commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    This is a feature that is needed.

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Deffo, DO should allow more IPs than one per droplet.

  • V4V commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    i also suggest that, DO must allow extra ips with droplet.
    Sometimes we need more ips with droplet.

  • Renato Amaya commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    I didnt want to say this but ... SOLARPVPS.com has many IP per host ... :(

  • Mitchell Vincent commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    FWIW, we are all perfectly willing to pay for extra IPs, just as I'm sure we've all had to do for years, along with justifying them with either CSRs or some other proof of need versus want. I can't stress enough how limiting this one-IP-per-box limitation really is...

  • Mitchell Vincent commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    This is absolutely crucial, and a base feature at any other hosting facility.. I was SO disappointed to spend 6+ hours of configuration on a new server with you guys only to find out that something I've been able to do at a co-lo since 1997 wasn't available.

  • Jan commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    +3 This is really important to us..

  • BJ commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    DigitalOcean don't care about this LOL.
    They just want you to build a new server....! Yeah right.

  • Almog Baku commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    This is very important to us to!

  • Jacob Parr commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    I concur. We are currently running 5 droplets and we will be forced to move back to AWS or other solution. SNI does only works technically - our logs are showing we are loosing nearly 30% of our traffic to Windows XP users.

    We are more than happy to pay for the extra IPs but we are not willing to administer a full Linux install simply to satisfy this need - too much maintenance overhead.

  • Kevin Lyons commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Moisey, Are there any updates since your meeting in August of last year?

    This is a critical need for us related to SSL. We have migrated all but two servers from Rackspace. We would love to be "all in" when this issue/feature is addressed. We would gladly pay for extra IPs. Rackspace does offer this option per support requests.

  • Phil commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    I need this feature, too.

  • Alejandro commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Yes, please add this feature.

  • Chris Burgess commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    I need this too. when will this be made available for both ipv6 and 4?

  • Paolo Giannone commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    really need this feature

  • Aaron de Bruyn commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    A routed subnet would be better when combined with the BSD suggestion. Easily set up a good firewall (pfSense for example), with a handful of droplets behind it...

  • Jason commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Lack of IPs keeps me from coming here. :( Also, an IP shouldn't cost more than $2 a month if you do and thats what most providers seem to charge.

  • Luiz commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Just frustrate a project by the lack of additional ip.

  • Ismael Cormier commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Please add this feature, this is important for cPanel/WHM USERS.

  • Asim Zeeshan commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    I concur to what Dan Smith shares. I have serious stuff like cPanel with multiple websites etc that can easily run on a droplet but I dont have more IPv4.

    One IPv4 per instance means that I cannot have more than one SSL-enabled website per droplet which makes the whole use of installing control panel such as cPanel dead. SNI is not a viable optional at this point and its like killing your traffic on older systems

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Please add this feature

  • Pablo commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    The likelihood of having this feature adopted will increase if folks consolidate their votes. To that end, vote for this suggestion (which essentially accomplishes the same objective), instead: http://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digital-ocean/suggestions/3224425-more-ips (and has accumulated a whopping 649 votes!).

  • Pablo commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    The likelihood of having this feature adopted will increase if folks consolidate their votes. To that end, vote for this suggestion (which essentially accomplishes the same objective), instead: http://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digital-ocean/suggestions/3224425-more-ips (and has accumulated a whopping 649 votes!).

  • Pablo commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    This could become a more realistic possibility if DigitalOcean would implement this suggestion: http://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digital-ocean/suggestions/3783274-allow-launching-droplets-with-no-public-ipv4-ip-an (because it would have the effect of freeing up some of DO's current allotment of IPv4s).

  • Pablo commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    The likelihood of having this feature adopted will increase if folks consolidate their votes. To that end, vote for this suggestion (which essentially accomplishes the same objective), instead: http://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digital-ocean/suggestions/3224425-more-ips (and has accumulated a whopping 649 votes!).

  • Jeff commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Same issue here. There is a thought that sites of similar content topics that share the same IP, suffer SEO hits. We had to stop a large migration of sites to Digital Ocean because we cannot receive multiple IP's per droplet.

  • Pascal Mathis commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    *bump* Any updates so far? The private networking already works like a charm, but additional IPs would be great.

  • Pablo commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Recognizing the bind that the IPv4 shortage creates, could a short-term solution be that DigitalOcean charges for the IP address and simply provides a free droplet for each IP, to go along w/it?

    For example: At the $5 price tier, a customer could purchase two IP addresses for $10/mo. The customer would then be free to choose whether to assign the two IP address to 2 separate $5-droplets or assign both IP addresses to one 512MB droplet.

  • Phil McKerracher commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    I'm well aware of the shortage of IPv4 addresses and the SNI option, but unfortunately a substantial proportion of my visitors (about 7%) are still on Windows XP so Server Name Identification is not really a practical solution yet (and neither is IPv6, obviously). Eventually it will be, but for now I would have to get a separate droplet for each eCommerce site, which blows my budget.

    So for now not having the option of at least some additional IP addresses is a showstopper for people in a similar situation.

  • Shelby DeNike commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    The lacking of the ability to add additional IP's to Droplets is the last thing really preventing me from moving some production systems over to Digital Ocean.

  • Moisey Uretsky commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    We are in the process of rolling out private networking in our new NY2 facility which is a chance for us to review this request and see if we can make headway on it.

    Thanks!

  • Aidan commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    can we get an update?

  • Nick Walke commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    SSL for multiple sites on XP IE requires this. Shame you don't have it.

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    i havent moved to DO cause of this, i mean for example i need a droplet with a streaming server (icecast) streaming on 80 port for avoid firewall blocking on offices, etc and a web server also on 80 port for control panel & statistics (centova). i think i cant achive this without 2 ips.

  • Jason commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    This is a serious block. Linode is a $20/mo min but only $1/mo per extra IPv4 address. I'm having to direct customers to other providers simply because additional IPs per VPS are not available. This is a serious shame.

    Help me direct more customers to you by adding this feature as quickly as possible.

  • 8nMQz1e0kL commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Looking forward to this feature. I'd hate to have some clients on AWS and some here... rather have everything in one place.

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    This is a necessity for anyone offering web hosting (e.g., cPanel). SSLs need dedicated IPs. I am surprised that such a large (fast-growing) provider can't provide this. I know there is a shortage, but if other VPS companies can get them, I'm not sure why DO can't.

  • Jason commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Bump, bump. Any update?

  • Moisey Uretsky commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Don't have any information update on this yet, we still have one more large project that we are in the process of completing which is the new CP which has a lot of refinements that people have asked for and hopefully will provide more clarification for new customers.

    We have a few more items outstanding but as soon as we have more information we will provide it.

    I did go through a large portion of the UserVoice comments to clean them up, but no update on this for now.

    Thanks

  • Jonathan Tittle commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Any word on this Moisey? I know there were a few issues with Amsterdam and RIPE from a previous suggestion, which will most likely impact IPv4 assignment in that region, though any update is better than nothing :-). I know you guys are working hard and I definitely commend that - it's great to see the launch of another DC!

    Keep us updated - I'm still splitting hairs with cPanel in hopes that IPv6 and SNI will soon be supported, though projections are still near the end of the year for either to fully make their way into the software. I'm all for NGINX, though my clients aren't as there's not a control panel available on the market today that will actively support and allow easy security and configuration (I'm *still* waiting, after 4 years, for someone to step up - if I had $25k to invest, I'd be hiring people *now*).

  • Eugene ElJefe Cook commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Another vote for this. If you use a control panel, SNI isn't supported well. No reason why we shouldn't be able to pay $5 for an IP, when we can get a droplet that has one assigned to it as well.

  • Morthawt commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    I like this idea. I am not expert enough with linux to fully make use of more IP's I bet, but one cheapo provider I have been testing in case people want me to set them up an ultra low cost linux based teamspeak server is selling additional IP's for $2 per.

    I think it would be a good idea to have bonus packages for this and other things such as disk space etc.

  • Jonathan Tittle commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    @Alexander - SNI is great, unless you use a control panel, and then it becomes a royal pain as many control panels, specifically the more popular and frequently updated, don't support it just yet. NGINX also isn't 100% supported by any single control panel on the market so dropping Apache/Litespeed in favor of NGINX isn't a viable solution. For those that specifically use barebones VPS's and/or Dedicated Servers and can do the configuration manually, it's a perfect solution, but for those in the shared, reseller, [other] industries, it's just not a viable solution.

  • Alexander Smith commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Chris have you looked in Server Name Indication? It's not the perfect solution but it's the future :P.

  • Chris Web commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    That would be nice. If it is possible soon to have more as 1 IP address per VM, then i will move all my projects to here. I need the IPs to handle my SSL-Certs. 1$/mo or 15$ one time for a additional IP would be nice :)

  • Moisey Uretsky commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    The pricing would most likely be $5/mo per IP.

    Thanks!

  • Zachary Henkel commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    I agree, and frankly I won't be able to use Digital Ocean for any real clients until this very simple feature is implemented. There are MANY applications that require more than a single IP address.

    I was excited to get going with Digital Ocean, but it looks like for reasonable features and support it's still Linode.

  • Jonathan Tittle commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Hey Moisey - Kernel Management sounds great too! Will this allow us to completely replace the kernel with our own, or will the options be limited?

    In regards to IP's, do you have a rough estimate on availability and pricing? Will it still be $5 or are you all toying with higher / lower?

  • Moisey Uretsky commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Implementing Kernel management first and then most likely moving on to this.

  • Jonathan Tittle commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Hey Moisey - Hope the meeting went well. Any status updates?

  • Jonathan Tittle commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Sounds good Moisey, please do keep us updated! Definitely hope this is an option after the discussion takes place as we have quite a few clients that'll be extremely happy to hear some good news :-). The lack of this specific option is the only thing preventing us from moving them over at this point.

  • Moisey Uretsky commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Going to review this item in our meeting on Thursday and see what the general consensus is =]

  • Jonathan Tittle commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    I am curious if there's an update on this one :-). Even if it meant making a request and having the IP's manually assigned by support until the system is in place to allow us to do it, that'd be fine.

    Paying $5 per IP isn't an issue.

  • vsbalingan commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    This suggestion is the second most-voted as of posting time but seems to be still unplanned despite the many valid reasons given by well-experienced and well-meaning folks. Some are even willing to shell out $5 a month just for each IP.
    I can't help thinking why would DO reserve IPs for trial accounts when some of us here even kinda promise moving more accounts to DO from other providers if only there could be extra IP for each droplet (for valid reasons of course).
    Any update?

  • Jonathan Tittle commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    @Eric - For those that use CP's, SNI is often not an option and the average home user doesn't care what SNI is, or how it works. They just want to know their data is being passed securely and when SNI fails for them, they'll most likely move along instead of contact the company and ask what's wrong. The result is lost sales.

    Some clients want barebones systems, so we can use NGINX. Personally I love it, but for those can't configure their own virtual hosts, a control panel is a better environment, otherwise we'd be spending most of our time telling clients how to use NGINX and diagnosing what they did to break their configuration.

  • Moisey Uretsky commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Going to look into this and see what we can do :)

  • Eric commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    I would think most people would be just fine with SNI and really don't need a second IP. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Name_Indication

    IE on Windows XP is still, and never will be , compatible.

    With that said, offering additional IPs at $5 each is very reasonable.

  • Jonathan Tittle commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    As a follow-up, I would set the bar a little higher than 2 IP's. We could easily justify 10-20 per VPS (all valid SSL's with GeoTrust, Thawte, etc - no self-signed), if not more. All of the SSL's are being used to secure client areas with sensitive information, secure e-commerce sites, etc.

  • Jonathan Tittle commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    @Moisey - I'd pay $5 / IP, no problem and I'll guarantee 100% justification, I just need the IP's :-). We have clients we'd love to move today, though cPanel + 1 IP prevents this from happening. Once we install our SSL for the server, the single IP can only be used to provide Shared SSL, which won't work for 99% of the clients we're hosting as they need their domain front-line and center.

    If this is possible, at least for SSL, I'd love to jump on-board. You've got my e-mail address, so feel free to get in touch!

  • Vins commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    +3
    me, i just need one more IP. please be good to us DO. ;-)

  • Moisey Uretsky commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    We can look into providing additional IPs however if offered the fee would be $5/mo per IP, and it would still have some limits based on around justification.

  • Brandon commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    I strongly urge you to reconsider this position. We are all aware that the pool of IPv4 addresses are running low but other providers (including your top competitors) still manage to provide IPv4 addresses on an as-needed basis with adequate justification for a fee. The idea that I need to host domains on their own VM's solely because they require an SSL certificate, for example, makes management of my sites under your network complicated when compared to your competitors. I would imagine that there is a sizeable chunk of users who would be in the same boat as I am.

  • Moisey Uretsky commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Kenn, you are right and we may head down the right of providing an additional IP at $5/mo however it would only be limited to a small number like an additional 1 or 2 and require justification.

    We want to avoid a customer that gets 256 IPs on a single server because they just want to have 256 domains each with a unique IP address, the days when this improved SEO are long since gone and instead relevant content and duplicate content have a much higher significance to SEO.

    So we may add in support for a second IP.

  • Kenn Ejima commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Moisey, I totally understand that "it is the limitation of IPv4 and running out of global IP space" but your argument against this feature is a little weak.

    A new droplet has its own IP, thus the minimum cost of getting another IPv4 on DO is $5/mo. In some kind of apps, it's easier to bind multiple IPs on a single droplet than to architect an entire distributed system for availability (more droplets involved = worse MTBF) and wasted computing resources. Why don't you just offer additional IP for $5/mo or more, for instance?

    It's not black or white - things can be economically justified by supply and demand, based on the pricing. For our use case, we would pay more than $5/mo for that.

  • Kenn Ejima commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    We need 2 IPs assigned to the same server when we build STUN server: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STUN for our game server's matchmaking features, but I understand that this kind of requirement is pretty rare, so I'm fine that it's not a generally-accessible feature. But, I'd like to ask if managing multiple IPs assigned to a single droplet is technically possible in your infrastructure.

    In the case of Linode, when we need additional IPv4, they make us tell them the reason why we need it, and I think it's a sensible way of doing it. Considering how scarce IPv4 has become.

  • Moisey Uretsky commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    You mean aside from Facebook, and Tumblr, and just about every other gigantic website on the net? =]

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    great idea... too bad it'll never happen apparently..

    also i'd like to add: nobody who is anybody uses nginx... Moisey sounds like an nginx advertisement...

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    darn it :/

  • David commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    linode.com (more expensive) allow multiple v4 IPs per one VPS instance for extra $s. it's a shame you can't but at least you tell us how things are.

  • Ian Wizard commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    I'd like to expand this to more advanced networking.

  • Moisey Uretsky commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    The roadmap is comprised of internal things that we need to get accomplished and mixing those priorities with exactly what's up voted here on UserVoice.

    As for the multiple IP situation there is no chance in the future that we will ever be providing multiple IPv4 on the same virtual server, there's just no way around that.

    It is the limitation of IPv4 and running out of global IP space and I'm sure that cPanel and other panels will eventually upgrade to using IPv6 on the backend and serving everything through a single IPv4.

  • Jonathan Tittle commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Hey Moisey,

    Sounds good - is there a definite road map that can be viewed, or perhaps shoot me a quick e-mail. We've love to be able to move a few clients over sooner than later, though the IP drought is the biggest deterrent. They use CPanel, CPanel doesn't support SNI, and DO doesn't provide multiple IP's, so they're stuck :-).

    InterWorx supports SNI, with a little configuration last I recall, though clustering doesn't work without at least 2 IP's on the cluster management node (which can be a VPS - and it's even suggested due to cloud providers).

    With that said, IPv4 is the only way to go if the above are used (we can even toss Plesk and DirectAdmin into the mix so include the better part of the market share across the board :-) ).

  • Moisey Uretsky commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Working on everything as fast as we can =]

    We spent the last two months prepping for our double RAM / SSD announcement and we're going to be making progress on the rest of the roadmap / uservoice list as quickly as we can through the year.

    Only time will tell how it goes but we're hopeful that this year we will make a sizable dent in the feature requests from users.

  • Jonathan Tittle commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    @Moisey

    How far from IPv6 is DigitalOcean? Given that CPanel is a ways away from full SNI support and most CP's that offer clustering (i.e. InterWorx) require at least 2 IP's on the primary node (VPS), multiple IP's, even if only 2 per VPS, are almost a requirement unless you run nothing more than a LAMP stack (or similar).

    I can completely understand the issue with IP deployment given the limitations and restrictions, though given that DO is a larger provider, it seems there'd be a little more pull to make this happen, even if only for the short-term until IPv6 is standard. I oversee an administer quite a few servers, so I know there's pressure from above to ensure IP's are allocated and their usage is properly justified, though at the same time, given the fact that the IP's would simply return to the pool if a VPS is destroyed, it seems allowing an extra IP per VPS wouldn't be an issue.

    While I know that not everyone would, I could sit here and easily verify each IP requested and it'd fall well within guidelines for usage. Once IPv6 is widely adopted and a standard, of course, this won't be an issue, though in the mean time, IPv4 is the standard and is what is used by default. Most ISP's don't even fully support IPv6 yet (i.e. they support a mix, but not IPv6 only) - Charter Communications and Comcast, rather large and well-known providers, fall into this category, so while a mixed ratio works, full IPv6 support hasn't even made it's way to them yet and they're a major provider on the East Coast.

    This isn't meant to be argumentative - DO's stance is what it is, I'm simply trying to make a point from a developer & server admin's point of view. If clients can't justify IP's, pull them, we do it and so do many providers that are larger than us. From just working with the front-end of your system, it seems you all definitely have the capabilities to manage such as you continue to grow :-).

  • Moisey Uretsky commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Unfortunately the reality is that there is very limited IPv4 space available - about 45-60 million IPv4 addresses are left and based on the assignments this year this space will be entirely used up within the next 18-24 months.

    So this is a limitation that is placed on us through ARIN and the realities of how much IP space is available. We would love to give everyone as many IPv4 addresses as they would like but unfortunately that's not possible.

    Nginx and all modern browsers now fully support being able to use multiple SSL certificates on a single IP, so this is something that needs to be kicked up to their developers so that they begin to support it.

    Part of the reason we have so little IP space now is because of all of the ways that it was wasted initially, from large assignments to institutions that would never make use of it, to all of the inefficient ways that the internet was officially setup at first mapping a domain to a single IP until HTTP was able to also process a domain in the request to map multiple domains to the same IP.

    In our case we can't launch a virtual server without a public IP address so it literally correlates to allowing customers to spin up new servers, so this is a limitation that unfortunately is going to remain.

    We will be adding IPv6 IPs in the future and there, there will of course be no restrictions given the size of the pool available.

  • Jonathan Tittle commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    The only issue with not allowing more than 1 IP per VPS is that control panels, such as CPanel, require each domain to have a dedicated IP if you wish to install and use an SSL certificate.

    You can, of course, use a Shared SSL, though it's hardly the same and for businesses that require their own (i.e. Extended Validation - one which verifies the business, not just the domain), that's a huge deal-breaker and would turn a business elsewhere.

    It is possible with NGINX, though CPanel (or DirectAdmin, Plesk, Interworx - all very popular control panels, although CPanel corners the market) doesn't use NGINX, nor do they support it.

  • Moisey Uretsky commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    There would be other changes that we would need to make on the network and routing side to allow for HA which is why we are looking into ways to provide a simpler load balancing service that does the heavy lifting for customers and is more plug and play.

  • Francis Levasseur commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Is someone have suggests on how to do HA without a floating IP?

  • Moisey Uretsky commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    We will be adding IPv6 support in 2013 =]

  • Andres commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    more Ip-v6 free, is an alternative for who need more ips

  • Krenar Qehaja commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Maybe the possibility to purchase more IP addresses at a reasonable price per month.

  • Robert commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    I'll add that I've done this successfully with Lighttpd. Somewhere in the 1.4 branch they supported SNI as well. Just enable it primarily then set a certificate per vhost. I did test and it works.

  • Moisey Uretsky commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    If you want to resell through us you can also follow our article on Nginx on how to setup multiple SSLs on a single IP using Nginx:

    https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-set-up-multiple-ssl-certificates-on-one-ip-with-nginx-on-ubuntu-12-04

  • john commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    some of your customer may want to setup their own shared hosting on your virtual machines for their many small website customers. Many of these may need SSL if they are eshops. Forcing to buy a differen VPS per ip, makes your service more expensive and more inefficient. Can you image that I should buy and setup a new VPS, instead of setting up just another apache virtual host?

  • Moisey Uretsky commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    That's true but it is a decreasing market share and for some specific companies that share is much lower. Last time we checked we had only 10% internet explorer traffic if that.

    Unfortunately we aren't supporting multiple IPs for a virtual server, and if we did the cost would probably be close to getting a second virtual server anyway so it's almost easier and cheaper overall to get another virtual machine.

  • Matt Whelan commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    SNI is not supported using Internet Explorer on Windows XP. Considering Windows XP still has more than 20% of the operating system market share, that leaves out an awfully large number of users. Again, deal breaker.

  • Moisey Uretsky commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Multiple SSL certs on a single IP can be configured with Nginx and is supported by the majority of modern browsers.

    Are there any other use cases for multiple IPs that you are interested in?

  • Matt Whelan commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Um, clearly needed more than one site with a SSL Certificate requires more than one IP address. Not allowing this at all, kind of a deal breaker.

  • Moisey Uretsky commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    We don't have any plans yet to add more IP space to current virtual servers but if you let us know what your intended use is we could probably help you with a work around.

    Thanks

  • jack commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Maybe you can think of standard additions for a vitual server, such as paid additional ips or subnets?

  • Moisey Uretsky commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Hi,

    Unfortunately we do not provide more than 1 IP per virtual server, if there are particular needs that require more than one IP let us know and we'll help you create a work around.

    Thanks

  • jack commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    Hopefully they might allow / provide in the future

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 19:46

    well that will be so cool , but DO's did not allow more than one ip