DO Ideas 2

Keep Arch Linux on DigitalOcean

Hi all,

I really love Arch Linux so much, but DO is trying to move that out. I hope that you guys can try to vote for the fantastic distro to keep it on DO.

The following is the letter that I just wrote to the support ticket.
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I'm very surprised about the maintainability of Arch Linux. Personally, I'm a heavy user of Arch, I do love the distro. Arch Linux is a contemporary minimalist Linux distribution. It provides a very clean, lightweight distribution of the Linux operating system.

While I was trying to launch another Arch server on DO, I was astonished about the announcement.

"""
We are deprecating Arch Linux as one of the standard base distributions. We haven't seen a large up take in the number of customers that have installed Arch and given the distro's rolling updates the maintenance work that it requires currently on our side does not allow us to stay up to date.
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Please, please don't take out my favorite distro from DO. The Arch community is very strong and powerful, you can ask anyone for help, even I can try to help you guys to maintain the Arch kernel for DO. I'm very sad to hear that you want to move the distro out.

Maybe I'll consider to move to Linode seriously if you really do so. :(

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  • Anonymous
  • Sep 11 2018
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  • Malcolm Sparks commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    This issue is preventing my company using DO, we'd love to be able to use it as an alternative to AWS.

  • BURAK AKIN commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    I installed arch 4 years ago , and today I realized it does not even update. Bring Arch back , I dont want to use Ubuntu or any other distro .

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    I don't think that DO needs to worry about updating their image for Arch any more regular than a non-rolling OS like CentOS, etc. Once installed, the admin can bring it up-to-date just like the others.

    Please bring Arch back!

  • mohammad commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    add archlinux it not that so hard, one image, many rollups, and dont support it , we will maintain on our own

  • Anonmymous42 commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    I also agree with other users here. I'm using Linode because they have Arch Linux support even though they are more expensive. Without Arch Linux you are truly limiting yourself to a huge community. The Arch Wiki along with many other resources are vital to Linux in general. Until you have Arch Linux support you will never have my support.

  • Zachary DuBois commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    If they don't add the ability to have Arch, they should at least add custom ISOs.

  • Ryan Holloman commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    So many people have already made their opinions on this matter clear. I can only echo what has been said: I came to Digital Ocean (DO) under the impression that I would be able to use Arch as a platform, thanks to the many comparison articles which compare DO to Linode. I settled at the time, but now that I have wet my feet it is time to make a decision and to me the platform choice is a deciding factor. Please consider brining Arch Linux back.

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    I was coming back after being a previous DO user but im not paying for a droplet without arch. sorry, you lost a customer.

  • David commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    Please add Arch back, my servers using Arch really make my life easier. We're not the biggest user base around, but we are VERY loyal.

  • Matthew Robinson commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    I recently came to Digital Ocean expecting to use Arch Linux as my droplet. Needless to say I was disappointed to see that was no longer an option. PLEASE bring Arch back! It's the best!

  • Fausto Uribe commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    Any official response to this request?
    F

  • Jonathan commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    I also felt tricked seeing Arch in the video. I signed up for DO believing Arch was supported and was very disappointed to discover it was not.

    Please bring it back!

  • Fernando Cordeiro commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    Arch was not the reason I signed up, but that doesn't mean I don't want it. I think the message is pretty clear: Bring Arch back. Most requested Image, with almost 1400 votes. Custom ISOs is the only suggestions regarding images that is higher than Arch.

    The second most voted image is OpenBSD by the way, with 409 votes. To me this looks pretty obvious: We need Hosting, and we need Arch.

    Come on guys, what is taking you so long?!?

  • Nate commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    I just saw Arch Linux on the homepage and I am really disappointed to see, that DO doesn't support Arch Linux anymore... Please bringt it back!

  • Brian M commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    Arch needs to be back, no doubt about it.

  • Christopher Bayliss commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    I signed up because I saw Arch Linux in the homepage video, I went to make a Droplet with Arch Linux on it and was shocked to find Arch was gone. :(

    Please bring it back! :)

    In the mean time, I setup a CentOS droplet for my website, and it is great!

  • Eason commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    I am feeling cheated too. I saw that video ( https://www.digitalocean.com/assets/video/create-a27a9cbd.mp4 ) on the DigitalOcean homepage ( https://www.digitalocean.com/ ) -- it showed Arch, and that was what made me feel comfortable about DigitalOcean.

  • Subash Sn commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    I really wanted Arch linux now!

  • Clemens commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    @all
    perheapse this work for you? only for a workaround!

    https://github.com/gh2o/digitalocean-debian-to-arch

  • Eugene Tulushev commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    Just registered on DO, because Arch was on the main page in the gif.
    I just feel cheated and betrayed.

  • Ryan commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    It would be better to have a more sensible server distro that was minimalist, i.e. Gentoo or Slackware. Arch is not a good server distribution.

  • cb meeks commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    I'm a fan of Arch Linux but I can'd imagine DO removing support for something that was used frequently. I personally want to use a very minimalist distro (which Arch seems to be) but the majority has spoken. Now I'm just guessing here, but the reason we probably don't have Arch is the same reason we don't have FreeBSD. Not a large enough percentage of their customer base ACTUALLY used it. Having said that, I still say bring back Arch and while you're at it, give us FreeBSD. :-D

  • Sinan commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    I was planning to run Arch linux but what the hell? There is no Arch droplet!

  • Ray commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    +1 for ArchLinux

  • Gavin commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    Since the Arch Linux image has been removed, here's a script that converts a Debian 7.0 x64 installation into a fully-updated Arch installation. Feedback appreciated!

    https://github.com/gh2o/digitalocean-debian-to-arch

  • Brenden commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    Yes! I've gotten so used to it, all my apps run on it. Don't take our Arch, plz!!

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    +1 for ArchLinux

  • Sergio Navarro Fernández commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    To update the kernel image from an Archlinux in DO, you should use this --> https://github.com/sharow/archlinux-digitalocean

    Anyway, someone can send me an archlinux snapshot? :(

  • Sean commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    I'd love to have Arch back on DO. I was lucky enough to be able to build an Arch droplet right before support for creating new Arch droplets was deprecated. I'm able to spin up new Arch droplets based on that snapshot I have saved, but I've lost the ability to keep my kernel updated. There'll come a day when I won't be able to spin up a new droplet and update the system to current. This workaround is hacksy and while it works right now, I would love to have Arch support re-instated. It's a fast, smooth, lightweight (as you make it) distro with a ton of recently updated packages available.

  • Joe Eaves commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    Arch is my go-to. I'm upvoting this ticket and also the ticket to allow custom ISOs, to allow me to use Arch. Please?

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    Arch Linux would be my first choice to install. I can deal with debian or ubuntu, but I'd prefer to have a distro I actually like to use.

  • fontastic.me commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    We need to run Arch Linux on DO too

  • Matthew Sitton commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    Same as others arch linux was the reason i signed up for digital ocean in the first place.
    I have started migrating over to linode.

  • The Digital Orchard commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    With the diverse range of Linux distros available, is Arch Linux really that unique? We all establish our preferences, but I've found that we are also very adaptable creatures, and learning to adapt to other platforms and approaches can be hugely beneficial. It helps us to grow instead of staying inside of our comfort zone.

  • Karl Tremain commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    All, Can I suggest you take a look at linode.com instead, as they offer arch, and it is a lot more up to date than the DO build was. I've just opened an account there, and tested their support, which is just as quick to reply to tickets as DO is.

  • Vipin.K.Narayanan commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    Today i created my first DO account just to find that there is no Arch Linux Option , availability of Arch Linux is one of the reason i choose DO, DO you are loosing one more potential customer , please bring back Arch.

  • Michiel Helvensteijn commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    When I expressed my disappointment about this decision to a DO representative (support ticket), they sent me here. So at least they're aware of this page. Needless to say, I fully agree that Arch should come back.

    DigitalOcean: You can't advertise as a geek-friendly company and then take away their favorite toys. :-)

  • Alexander Bus commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    Nooooo! Bring it back, DO!

  • Karl Tremain commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    700+ votes, and no update from DO staff AT ALL. And now they go and delete the image entirely.

    Surely thats proof that users want the image, and DO dont really care what they want or not...

  • Daniel Sandman commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    Yes, please keep Arch on DO!

  • Ford commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    the Arch Linux was removed :(

  • Ahmet Yeşil commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    I have recently signed up, I was expecting to use Arch, please support it again...

  • Dave Helgert commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    As a current DO customer I would like to see Arch stay as an available choice. I had not used it yet but planned to soon.

  • J commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    DO keep Archlinux on DO!

  • gordev commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    +1

  • Igor Osipov commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    OD's $5 512Mb RAM plan and ArchLinux are a perfect match!
    You can squeeze the most profit from your tight VPS only with such a lightweight yet full powered distro.

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    I would like Arch to stay on Digital Ocean. If not I would like to see an KVM snapshot import manager so the community could load whatever distro they want.

  • Ronaldo Silva (Rthoth) commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    +1. Arch

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    Please continue to support this. If not, I'll probably move everything to another VPS provider.
    That would be a sad day..

  • Luka Dornhecker commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    Arch was the single reason I decided to use DO.
    I will definitely leave DO if you kill off Arch.

  • Ford commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    Yeah,I use the Arch now,I hope it can upgrade support with DO.

    Thanks DO community.

  • Jesse Palmquist commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    Please don't get rid of Arch, this is why I signed up for Digital Ocean!

  • Vesa Kaihlavirta commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    Is Arch Linux support giving you some sort of extra trouble? Is there something we could do to help?

  • Adrian David Samaniego commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    Dont kill arch! Its the reason I signed up!

  • Colvin commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    Not into Ubuntu, CentOS, Fedora, etc. Its a shame that DO's awesome infrastructure is wasted by not providing my two OS's of choice, Arch Linux and FreeBSD.
    +1 Arch Linux
    +1 FreeBSD

  • arcnmx commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    Just found this out now when creating a new droplet, very disappointed. Hopefully this decision can be reverted!

  • Brian Parsons commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    I published my PKGBUILD and init script to boot the Arch Linux LTS kernel here: https://github.com/bparsons/do-kexecinit

    I have only used this on x86_64. I have been using kexec all along on Digital Ocean without problem and created this package to ease my deployments.

  • Brian Parsons commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    I use Arch on DO and have a package that changes the init to kexec. Updates have been no problem and I am on the current LTS kernel. Happy to help any way that I can.

  • savino commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    dont cry there are also good servers soft as ubuntu test a other unix and arch is not real userFriendly in my way. now also a good reason for test ubuntu 14 x64 server edition

  • sharow commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    I just started https://github.com/sharow/archlinux-digitalocean . only tested at x64 now.

    Deploy 'Arch Linux 2013.05 x64',
    curl https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sharow/archlinux-digitalocean/master/updater | sh -
    wait about 2 minutes, reboot, then update latest kernel.
    pull request are always welcome!

  • Michael Danko commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    Just loaded up Arch at home, so much better than the others. Keep Arch going so my cloud VPS can be awesome too!

  • Zachary DuBois commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    +1. Arch!

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    I like Arch Linux and use it every day, but I really don't see the point in running it on a server, which is something you generally want to keep as stable as possible.

  • e8hffff commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    I'm new to DigitalOcean. I tried to make Archlinux build but it wouldn't patch. I had to resort to Ubuntu. This problem is most-likely due to the background VM packages not being maintained, so without DigitalOcean onboard it's fruitless to use Arch.

  • Kristoffer Tangfelt commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    I also vote up for this, it's my favorite and goto distribution aswell. And i share the sentiment of the original poster aswell. It's clean and lean, and easily shaped unlike the bloated Ubuntu's and the alike.

    And as many says. There likely could be people in the community that might be able to slice up some time to test/maintain it. I could possibly myself even contribute if need be.

  • Dee commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    It is a great distribution. And the more knowedlgeable and skilled you are the better it is. With those Arch makes a fantastic VPS. I have one now for a year. It;s a blistering, lean mean server machine. It's a shame to take it away from knowledgeable and skilled users who can utilize what Arch offers to its fullest. Even lacking kernel updates. I'll mention kexec-tools to address that issue but use with caution and read through the installation or you will break your droplet.

    The problem is that Arch users being in the minority, leaving DO actually furthers their aim. As, Bye! See yah! So that won't achieve anything but tidy up things for DO.

    What I would suggest to Arch users and DO is to reach out to each other. Why can't Arch users help maintain Arch on DO? I'm sure they'd be quite willing to do that? ANd I have no doubt they have the ability. Give them a droplet upgrade for their time and effort? I'll excuse myself from that, it isn't self-interest in suggesting this. I don't have them time. So I'll go on record, no I won't accept anything in exchage. But I really do not see with DO prominently displaying "Now Hiring" that a way could not be found to make use of the ability that exists within the Arch community to resolve this to everyone's satisfaction?

    Dee,

    please excuse any typos!

  • Fabiano Furtado commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    DigitalOcean, please keep Arch Linux as an option on your droplets. What about the use of Arch LTS kernel? The kernel updates could be made once a month or ​​once every quarter.

    Thank you!

  • Don Thornton Jr. commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    I like Arch and I have a droplet running Arch but it has been broken due to the DO kernel being incompatible with some of the packages that were upgraded.

    I would like DO to continue supporting Arch but I will need to migrate back to Ubuntu 14.04 for my primary server if DO does not fix the kernel problem.

  • alex commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    If DO does drop Arch and/or not add the LTS version, I will have to take all of my business - work and personal (multiple accounts) to Linode, which btw recently switched to SSDs...

  • jmartins commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    I would like to help digital ocean and maintain the Archlinux images...

  • Anonymous commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    I'm thinking to leave DO if they finally deprecate Arch Linux.

  • Josh David Miller commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    This is extremely frustrating. I've run Arch Linux for many years, but I'm not even sure what to do with some of the packages installed to these directories (e.g. remnants of sysvinit); I don't know what's needed for DO and why some packages aren't installed from the official repositories. It's a server, so reliability is critical and I don't have time to mess with this kind of thing. As such, the Arch Linux image isn't usable for me.

  • alex commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    I am saddened that this is not offered. I really want to switch from using Ubuntu 12.04 and Archlinux LTS makes that possible.

  • Bruno Delbono commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    The current Arch image will fail with pacman -Su. Here is how to fix it:
    https://www.archlinux.org/news/binaries-move-to-usrbin-requiring-update-intervention/

    But also if you try using other kernel revisions, you loose iptables and firewall modules.

  • Vlad Ionescu commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    Any updates?

    linux-lts for Arch is desperately needed.

  • Johnson Lin commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    Same here I'd like to see it implemented as soon as possible. The kernel options at the droplets admin page for Arch Linux is constantly falling behind the newest kernel, if you have to put up a hand-wrapped custom kernel every 2 months or less so by your own guys at DO, that eventually will hurt you.

  • Johnson Lin commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    Yes, please, if this didn't get implemented then you really shouldn't have put Arch Linux as a droplet choice.

  • Shawn Dellysse commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    I would also like to see this added. The linux-lts package is essential on a server. I was very disappointed to see that it wasn't available. I hope to see it soon, or else for my clients' sake, I might have to switch providers.

  • fluweel commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    This is far from solved. Please add the lts kernel from allowed kernels

  • Moisey Uretsky commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    Did you recently launch a new virtual machine and run an upgrade which broke?

    And if so can you provide some log or command-line output of which specifically wasn't working post-upgrade?

  • Moisey Uretsky commented
    September 11, 2018 17:33

    We've updated the latest version of the Arch image to use a new kernel which will not break under update and if you have a prior version of Arch launched you can click on the new settings tab on the droplet and select the Arch Linux kernel displayed which should allow you to launch your virtual server after you've performed an upgrade.